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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:05 pm 
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I came across the name of Ayaan Hirsi when I was doing research for a blog post, but I wanted to keep the article short, so I didn't include her ideas in the post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali
OR...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

There is another anti-FGM/C activist from Somalia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waris_Dirie
OR...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waris_Dirie

searching wrote:
SHALL we discuss, if boys OR girls grow up with more and worth abuse? Shall I take part in a discussion on this subject? Do you want this discussion? Sometimes I think, yes, I want or I have to, and then I want to remind you that there are further more forms of torture and mutilation then circumcision, and I wonder, if sexual abuse is not happening relatively more often as your statistic says.

The Top 5 list of child maltreatment is my guess/estimate, actually not taken from reliable statistics. Only if sexual abuse is happening to more than 1 in 7 children (15%) would it be happening relatively more often. Only data from a reliable source - e.g. Save the Children organization or UNICEF - would carry weight. Possibly emotional and psychological abuse comes close. Rednecks in America might find it difficult to believe, but the evidence I find is that Muslim parents love their children as much as Christian parents do. They don't understand that circumcising boys is wrong. They think it makes Holy, because the prophet Mohammed didn't have a foreskin.... a rare medical condition that happens sometimes.

Neck-stretching is only a tradition in a small number of tribes in Africa.... affecting a few thousand individuals, but not tens of thousands. Foot-binding was only practiced by affluent families in Imperial China - an outward sign that the women didn't need to work. Peasant women in China (the majority of women) never had their feet bound. I know this because I've read books about the history of China (I can provide the titles if asked).

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On the other hand, I often feel, that this discussion, which gender is suffering more, is not very clever, when it's about children.

I didn't want to suggest one gender suffers more. My goal is to draw attention to issues where the Wall of Silence is strongest and affects the largest number.... i.e. more circumcisions than suicide bombers. The Wall is not so strong for FGM/C.... many countries in Africa have laws against it. Female circumcision is practiced in some, but not all, countries in North Africa and the Middle East. But that's not the whole of the Islamic world. The three Islamic countries with the largest populations - Indonesia, Pakistan and Bangladesh - have no tradition of female circumcision. Neither does Iran. The tradition of FGM/C started thousands of years before Islam existed.

PS. Your use of the word "convention" was OK. It can be used both ways.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Thank you for the translation, searching. It is very helpful to know Alice Miller's opinion.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:16 pm 
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Thank you for telling me about Nawal El Saadawi ( http://nawalsaadawi.net/ ) - I didn't know before.

Searching wrote:
...she never opened a "departement" in her own wrightings, which would have been specialized on the subject of circumcision. ... And we don't know, what was going on in AM's mind.

There are many issues that even Psychohistory.com has not published articles about. It would have required a large number of books from Alice Miller to cover every issue. I hope a new author will appear soon who can match Alice Miller's polemic style of writing which inspired so many people.

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To be honest, I have very mixed feelings on these subjects. It's not (or at least not mainly) about muslim parents being worth then American or typical German parents (I'm not sure on it, to be honest).

My point was that Muslim parents love their children as much as Christian parents do. All of the bad things you mention are also done by Christian and Jewish parents. Parents of all religions have rationalizations for the sufferings they inflict on their children. I didn't know until I read the BBC article that many Christian parents in the United States circumcise their sons.

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What you say about women in China is true. This is what I've learned from history books....

Before the 1960's women were second class citizens in China. Among the peasantry it was common for daughters not to be given a name. They were called "Mr. Wong's daughter No.1", "Mr. Wong's daughter No.2", "Mr. Wong's daughter No.3", etc. When Chairman Mao introduced the Cultural Revolution in 1966 he wanted women to have equal rights and status. By the 1970's women had an equal chance of a university education and many women achieved senior positions in the Communist Party hierarchy. I have researched the change in cultural attitudes to children in many parts of the world.... and China is the country where it has changed the most.

After Mao's death, Deng Xiaoping introduced economic reforms which allowed private enterprise, but the population explosion was a serious problem threatening economic progress, so the One-Child Policy was introduced. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein-Kind-Politik

Since the One-Child Policy parents value and treasure their children as never before. Corporal punishment in schools is strictly against the law and Major national newspapers frequently name-and-shame teachers who are caught. However, nearly all of China's child protection laws are published only in the Chinese language. I once spent hours using http://translate.google.com/ researching the laws. I found one (and only one) municipal government website which published a statute in English....

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"Some Rules of Shenzhen Special Economic Zone on Implementing the Law of the People's Republic of China on the Guarantee of the Rights and Interests of Women" (Adopted in 1993) - http://fzj.sz.gov.cn/en/33.asp

Article 23: "It is prohibited to impose the corporal punishment or disguised corporal punishment on the female child."

The richest person in Taiwan (Republic of China) is Cher Wang, the female co-founder of the HTC mobile phone company. I'm afraid there is no Wikipedia article about her in German: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Wang

Palestine

There has been a lot of news coverage of the Gaza crisis recently. At the weekend I checked the visitor statistics for my blog and noticed that someone from Gaza in Palestine read an article about the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. I went to the Al Jazeera website and found this:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 56106.html

Al Jazeera's article, "The voices of Gaza's children", includes an interview with Mustafa El Masri, a psychiatrist who works with the World Health Organisation, who gave advice on how Palestinian parents can help their children cope with trauma of Israel's bombardment.

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