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 Post subject: Bruce Lipton
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:48 pm 
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Bruce Lipton explains one of the biggest scientific discoveries of modern time, how the environment shapes our behavior and nothing else. No DNA is responsible for any type of behavior. This is the missing step in Primal therapy. The power of belief does make changes. Placebos have an effect on someone's health, and so do nocebos, the negative effect of negative thinking. Lipton acknowledges that the irrational part inside of us comes from the subconscious and that it's hard to change that. In my opinion, Primal Therapy integrates the levels of subconscious.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruce Lipton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:18 pm 
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Lipton shows scientifically that the environment is the key factor of our behavior. Even at a cellular level, it responds biologically to external signals. DNA has nothing to do with behavior. It was a dogmatic belief, encouraged by the pharmaceutical industry who started to make money by letting people believe that any disease was genetic rooted. Lipton already discovered the environmental influence on stem cells in the 1960s but was laughed away by colleagues. Nowadays science is catching up and he's taken more seriously. Lipton also states that most of our behavior is from our subconscious, and cannot be changed. Not easily at least. The power of the mind does make biological changes in people, with placebos as a proven fact. What Lipton also emphasized is the "nocebo" effect, the power of negative thinking having a biological effect on our health.

What does Janov add to this? Slowly integrating the subconscious into the layers of consciousness, if there's severe trauma rooted.

If you think of the most emotionally, mentally healthy person in the world, and you put this person in a negative environment, within a short time, this person will start to suffer. I once read: "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." And since we all continue life with the exact same family dynamics we are used to while we grew up, we tend to stay in similar environments, with the same type of people.


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 Post subject: Re: Bruce Lipton
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The Guardian newspaper wrote:
The greatest irony of all is that many of the people promoting optimism are unwittingly feeding a view of human nature that is cynical in the very worst sense. Take psychologist and neuroscientist Elaine Fox, who is on Horizon tonight [BBC TV] talking about her book Rainy Brain, Sunny Brain. Like many, she traces our tendency to make positive or negative judgments back to our brains and the ways in which they have been cast by our DNA and shaped by our experience. Her upbeat conclusion is that by understanding the neural basis of personality and mood, we can change it and so increase our optimism, health and happiness.

The deeply cynical result of this apparently cheerful viewpoint is that it encourages us to see what we think and believe as products of brain chemistry, rather than as rational responses to the world as it is. Rather than focus on our reasons for being optimistic or pessimistic about, say, the environment, we focus instead on what in our brains is causing us to be optimistic or pessimistic. And that means we seek a resolution of our anxieties not by changing the world, but by changing our minds. If that's not taking a cynical view of human merit and potential, I don't know what is.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... f-cynicism

Dennis, would you say the reviewer's opinion is compatible with what Bruce Lipton says?

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I never thought Lipton was part of the "positive movement". He discovered a new biology, how the environment influences us, not DNA. Just by changing the environment, we change our health. He also acknowledges the HUGE importance of our subconscious that "downloaded" all experiences from the first 6 years of our lives and how the subconscious is responsible for most of the choices we make.

Cynicism is easy though, and probably a natural reaction when we are overwhelmed by events that we cannot change. As we gain more information every day, cynicism is on the rise. And it's easy to find a lot of things in the world to feed cynicism. We can ask ourselves: why are we bombarded to feel responsible for acts that other people do? The world is changing constantly. What is considered good today, might be considered extremely bad in 100 years from now. As it always have been in history.


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 Post subject: Re: Bruce Lipton
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You got my point, Psychosceptic. Everyone should question assertions that DNA determines our state of mind.... instead of the actual circumstances we encounter in the external world. Questioning the DNA dogma is healthy cynicism.

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